The Queen of the Pivot

On our first episode of the year, we sit down with Mrs. Kashmere Brooks McCoy, my personal queen of the pivot. She shares her journey from military service and full-time hairstyling to becoming a second-grade teacher while emphasizing her philosophy of adapting to life's constant changes while maintaining authenticity in content creation and motherhood. We learn about her approach to pivoting careers by doing it with her whole, unedited self so she can leave without regrets, while documenting her journey publicly as both a memory archive and a way to inspire others. 

Let's Get Into It topics

1. PHL School Closures 
2. Election Update - Primaries May 19th
   1. Governor, Lt. Gov.
   2. PA-3 Former Dwight Evans spot

Representative in Congress – Democratic – 3rd District **

1. ALA STANFORD (9th Ward) 
2. SHARIF STREET (11th Ward)
3. CHRIS RABB (9th Ward)
4. SHAUN GRIFFITH (48th ward) 
   1. State Reps 

 Representative in the General Assembly – Democratic – 200th District 

• DESHAWNDA WILLIAMS (50th Ward)
• CHRIS JOHNSON (22nd Ward) 
• QASIM RASHAD (22nd Ward) 

Representative in the General Assembly – Democratic – 195th District 

• KENNETH T WALKER JR (16th Ward) 
• KEITH HARRIS (28th Ward) 
• SIERRA MCNEIL (16th Ward) 

Representative in the General Assembly – Democratic – 201st District 

• ANDRE D CARROLL (17th Ward)**

Ballot Questions: 1. City retirement plan 2. The permanent position of the Youth Ambudsman Office 

Source:

https://whyy.org/articles/pennsylvania-election-2026-primary-3rd-congressional-district/

https://vote.​​phila.gov/voting/candidates-for-office/

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Transcript

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Why don't I do anything else? And I can do. Seriously, like I can just do me, you know? Like I can just live my life for full, complete, just myself.

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Alright, alright, and welcome to Unabridge. I am so excited to be back here again on this journey with you all. And I realized today, or you know, while I was preparing for the show that it has been almost two years since there has been a new episode of Unabridge. So, you know, I I'm just really excited to be back, to be back in a space of therapy for me, to have conversations. You know, people have actually been asking about the show. So, you know, we're happy to be back here. A lot of things have changed since the last time we spoke, which is also why we had to take a little pause. Um, your girl is now somebody's whole fiance, yes, uh big things, Mrs. Woodson loading, and we are somebody's whole mother, you know. So I wear my creator shirt because, you know, yes, I'm a creator in this space, but I also made a life, all right? So, yes, big mama, that is our new life now, and we're gonna get into some of that and really include that motherhood journey that I went on and that so many other women have been on as a part of Unabridged. But I promise you, the mission is still the same. We are still looking at this idea of duality and action and seeing people that have used their whole unedited selves to make amazing things happen, not just for themselves, but their community and everyone around them. But now we're just talking about those who do it with the stroller a little bit more, you know. So it's gonna be a good fun journey, and I'm just excited to be back with you. Now, so much has happened, you know, since we have last spoke. So we might as well just get into our favorite segment, our first segment, my favorite segment, and of course yours. Let's get into it.

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Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.

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Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.

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Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get to get into it.

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All right, all right, let's get right into it. So, like I said, so many things have happened since the last time we spoke, right? And of course, because we talk about politics a lot on the show, we want to talk about Trump, right? This man starting a war, you know, gas now costs an arm and or leg. Sometimes they'll accept a toe if you go to a Sonogo. But it's giving like we can't even afford to live unless you are the ultra-rich right now. We are seeing a breakdown of our democratic systems just right in front of our faces, to the point that even our former, you know, our former like patriarchy came back and was just like, what are y'all doing? What what are you what are you doing over here? This this is what y'all left us for for this foolishness on your 250th birthday? Y'all gonna start acting a fool now? Yeah, but I really don't want to talk about that because I feel like we are so inundated with that type of negative news, right? And a lot of it, you know, granted the prices and that things like that, and what they're doing now with student loans and taxes and things like that, that does affect us, right? But there are a lot of things at the local level that are so much more in front of our faces. So we're gonna talk about that and the way that you know those things impact um our daily lives and how that's changing, versus just me harping on and talking about how Trump is just a dirty, dusty Dorito from under the sofa, you know, because we could talk about all day how he's a terrible trash human being, and we could go on about how he's rotting and how you know he is ruining our country. We can talk about that for days. Days. And there are a lot of commentators who are doing that. Shout out to those girlies, you know. I appreciate them. You know, the daily show is one of my favorite things to watch these days, just because they all they do all day is read Trump and read that whole admin. So I I love that for them. But over here, we're gonna focus on Philly politics, local elections. Um, and even though you know our next segment is gonna be a little bit of a difference, but I feel like that's also gonna like really affect our local side as well. So let's just get right into it. So, what is the first thing I really want to talk about because of when this podcast is coming out is the fact that we are about a week away when this podcast comes out, it's on Monday. So as of tomorrow, we are a week away from the May 19th primary elections in in the state of Pennsylvania. Yes, claps for that. If you if you didn't register to vote, shame on you because the deadline passed. However, if you have registered to vote, good for you, girl. Go out on a day of election day, or you can go to a lovely satellite site. I'm gonna put some information about that in my description so that way you can go and vote whenever you want. You know, shout out to the girls at the commissioners, commissioners' office for making that happen. So, no, this is big, big things happening, okay, in this primaries on May 19th. So we have some very, you know, um, in the primaries, and that's you know, when we decide who the party's person is going to be, right? So after May 19th, it'll the election is still going on, but now Democrats are facing Republicans and independents versus you know battling out amongst these amongst each other. But in a place like Pennsylvania, particularly in Philadelphia, who is a hard D city, you know, hard democratic city, the primary is the big girly, right? This is the main show. This is what we are here to see. Oh, November, it's like, okay, I really wonder if a Republican's gonna win. No, it is not giving that, right? What it is giving is this is the show, right? So, what we're gonna see coming up on this next coming ballot, right? I gotta pull up my list because it's a little long. We have the governor, you know, we have gosh gosh, Josh Shapiro, who is running for re-election again, his lieutenant governor, Austin Davis, is also running for re-election again. We have the um representatives for Congress, the Democratic Third District, and we're gonna get into that in more depth. We have representatives in all of our local state house seats are up for election, and we'll talk about those as well. And there are also two ballot questions on the bat on the ballot as well, one retaining to a city retirement plan, and the other one talking about the permanent position of the youth on uh I can never say this word. I don't even know why they why would they make this word? Youth um Budsman's office, okay? The permanency of that position. But you know, a lot of these races are you a little straightforward, right? Of course, Josh's gonna get to the next level, of course, Austin's gonna go to the to the to the next level, right? We're not worried about that. Uh, we have some most of our state rep seats in Pennsylvania right now are not contested. However, because of the third congressional district race, there is a vacancy right now. So there's an open seat for the 200th district. And for those who don't know and you're not thinking about politics and maps, that's really like the Germantown area that's Chestnut Hill area. You know, think of like QQ Uptown, right? Like that's really the 200th district, and there are about there are three people in that race right now, but the only name I'm gonna mention right now, because I can be biased as I want. This is my show, is Chris Johnson. Um, Chris Johnson actually is a former staffer, you know. Shout out to the staffers, we love a staffer, and he's actually, you know, make running a really great race. So shout out to Chris Johnson, you know, look out for him if you're in that district. You could definitely, you know, look up more information about him. We're not gonna mention the other two people, but there are two other people in the race. We also have to give a shout out to the 201st district representative, Andre Carroll. If you remember, um Andre was actually a guest in season one um in the episode The Audacity for Change. And Andre was um just becoming a state rep, and now he's running again for his second term. So shout out to Rep Carroll, soon to be, you know, you know, he's running as the incumbent now, no challenger, you know, but he actually doesn't even have an opponent. So technically we're just waiting for the checkbox on that day. So shout out to Andre Carroll, amazing young man doing some really great things for Germantown. And in that area is like the off part of cute Germantown, right? So not like the off part, but of like lower Germantown, so where we get into the parts where we be at, right? So shout out to Dre doing some amazing work out there, and we're super excited to see what you do with your next term, you know? Go ahead, and then also we have um Tossy, if there's anything, any of these other races that matter, no, okay, let's get into the one, the big girly. All right, so this representatives of and for Congress, right? The Democratic Division Third District, okay? Democratic Party Third District. This is this is the race right now. This is this is the one. There are currently right now four um four like what do you call them? I'm why I bank on a name for these people right now. I think I'm just a little nervous because this is my first episode back. So give your girls some some some slack. So there are there are four candidates right now in this race: Dr. Alex Stanford, Senator Sharif Street, State Representative Chris Rev, and a lawyer named Sean Griffin. Four people, right? And we're gonna get into each one of them. So we're just gonna start from the top, no order, and we're just gonna start with how we started, how we how we did it. Um, a little bit about the third before, they're replacing um state or they're replacing Congressman Dwight Evans, who has been in office for about nine years now, right? Before being a congressman, he has served in the state house district for like 30 years as a state rep and then ran for Congress in a special election in 2016 and has been in Congress since 2016, representing the third district. Now, the third district is basically half of Philadelphia, right? It is includes um West Philly, Northwest, including Germantown, Mount Area, West Oak Lane, Chestnut Hill, Center City with parts of Fairmount, um, North Philly on the west or east side of Broad or one side of Broad, not the other side, um, South Philadelphia, with that's parts of close to Center City, maniac and Roxboro. Um, so that's basically just half, literally split the city half. That's that's basically what the third district is. It's aggressively democratic, right? But so so we're not really like they're kind of looking at it in Washington because that is it, it does matter who comes in because I think this is really boiling down to an ideological fight, right? Like, who is the future of the Democratic Party in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia? Who is gonna be driving that needle? And in Pittsburgh, right? We have someone like Summer Walker, who was in DC representing PA, and she is extremely progressive. Shout out to Summer, she be out there reading the girls for filled, all right? And we love that. But now it's like, okay, Philly, like, what where are y'all gonna go? What direction are you going in? Dwight was a party man down tee to the ground, right? And that's you know, oh head, you know, oh head, you gotta have that lineage. You come from old school democratic, Philly politics, right? That you you grew up in the machine. Now, the seat is open. Which way do we go? And I feel like, you know, as we get into each one of these candidates, you'll see that they represent, you know, very different paths for um for which way the Democratic Party could go leading onto the future. So let's get into it. All right, so let me start by saying these are my uh personal opinions from working in politics, being in this space for oh my god, over 10 years now. Goodness gracious. Um, these are just things that I've noticed about these individuals, things that are that have come about their campaigns, things that have come up along the trail. So you can take it, you can leave it. We're not gonna talk about any endorsements, but again, we're gonna talk about the real ideological stances and and and path that this could really be signaling for the Democratic Party in Pennsylvania. Dr. Alice Stanford, let's start with her. Dr. Stanford is considered the ultimate outsider, right? But not in the progressive sense, but in the sense of an academic, someone who has been top of the field. She is a medical doctor, a pediatrician, um, who actually rose to fame or rose to prominency because during the COVID-19 pandemic, when the Trump administration was messing up everything, the girls didn't know what they were doing, how to test, what to do with this, what to do with that. Dr. Stanford created the Black Doctor's Consortium and was literally testing, you know, giving people vaccinations all throughout the pandemic, all on her own, through her own organization. You know, she got grants, you know, we're talking about that later too. You know, they got money, they started working with the city. She ended up working with President Biden at the at the time as well. So Dr. Stanford is is an actual doctor. We're not talking about PhD, we're talking about MD. All right, she is in the operating room, gloves and all. And that's kind of like the thing that she's been running on is the idea of, you know, if you're gonna talk about healthcare, maybe we should be talking to medical professionals. It's very logical. I mean, it's not really like a far concept, like we should be doing that, right? Also, you know, this idea of not having grown up in this political space, right? Knowing what it's like to have started a business you talks about, you know, having worked in poor black and brown communities that did not have access to healthcare, you know, is a is a major um side in her campaign right now. She has a little hiccups right now going along the campaign because she's the first-time candidate, right? She's never run for office before. She's coming from being a doctor to running for Congress, which happens sometimes, you know. Look at ALC. She was apparently a waitress before she did that. You know, the girls often do this, right? Congress is one of those seats where if you're like, I got the money and uh and I got the status, I'm gonna throw my hat up in there, right? And that's what Dr. Stanford was coming in. People were like, oh my goodness, she's gonna be an incredible candidate. She got that outside money because she's a doctor, you know, she's super smart. We have a million pictures of her, like shooting like vaccine needles and the babies. Like, this is amazing. We love her. She's gonna be an incredible candidate, right? Like, that is the energy that Dr. Stanford came into this race with. But unfortunately, her campaign had a couple hiccups, as they do when you are a first-time candidate. One in particular, which I thought was hilarious in this age of AI, you know, um, on one of her actual sheets that you that you fill out to get an endorsement, um, she left the AI tag. And for those of you who don't know, if you use Chad GBT or any list of those tags, there is a question that usually comes up at the bottom that asks you if you want to get more in depth how you want them to edit it, right? You gotta make sure when you use it, you take that out. Her campaign did not do that, and of course, of course, the organization in which they did this with put her on blast right on the Twitter, right on the Twitters, right? And her campaign owned up to it, saying that they were just trying to keep it brief because they're often long-winded, but they still got caught. And you know, in the age of AI and how so much speculation is under, especially for the way that AI and the energy that it uses is affecting black and brown communities, it's kind of like it's not a not a good look, really. And then also you have like former like staffers popping out the woodwork on her, saying she was a bad boss and like money issues with reporting things, or you can look that up on your own. So, yes, there have been some major hiccups. Oh my goodness gracious, not to mention, I'm sorry, I'm going on the tangent right now because I'm just I did a lot of research leading up to today, and I always just think how crazy our politics are sometimes. But anyway, not to mention, you know, her answering questions around transgender athletes, and she really tried to have like a real medical answer for that. But if you were a progressive girly, that was not what you wanted to hear, right? It was something like, you know, it depends on the amount of hormones that are in someone's body and the level we should take and we should test them on that before they're like it was like the room that she was in, loved it. They loved it. I think she was like, you know, might have been in West Philly or something like that. The girls ate that up, they loved it. But I'm pretty sure if you're a progressive candidate, you know, if you're a transgender individual yourself participating in sports, that is not maybe the answer you would have liked to hear. Right? But if you're an older African-American woman, you know, coming from that old school Democratic Party, you might like that. That that might be your that might be your juzge. Okay, so definitely representing a a new path, something that people are actually pushing for. Um, she's actually uh really heavily supported by a pack that is focusing on getting doctors and those in the sciences to run for office, um, which is I think is I I think is is a very incredible goal when you think about how we've seen politics have a major impact on health, especially for black women. So I was I think that that is a an incredible goal, but I think we also need to remember the ability to actually get things done in in what in DC or in Washington or any legislative body, like you know, what are those skills do we have for that? And in and unfortunately, it's not always about, you know, are you the smartest or do you understand the concept the most? But it's more of it becomes most about do you know how to navigate, right? So I think there are a lot of questions about Dr. Stanford, but again, a very exciting candidate. Shout out to the black girls. We always love the black girls, especially doctors, you know, snaps for her for being that. Um, next, we have Sharif Street. Sharif Street comes from Sharif Street represents like the waiter turn, like it's giving Democratic Party um son, right? Like his dad was the OG, you know, um mayor John F. Street, the OG, you know, that was the first mayor that I remember from growing up. I'm I may be aging myself or not aging myself, depending on who you are. That was my first mayor, and you know, everybody loves John Street for most part, right? I mean, maybe we we look at him more favorably than we did at the time, but thinking about some of the mayors that we've had after him. But, you know, we we everybody loves him. Guys at Temple teaching the classes, you know. So his son, um, Sir Senator Street Street, formerly a state senator in Pennsylvania, um, is also running right now. He, like I said, was um uh was a senator senator before he had um actually filled the seat for Senator Shirley Kitchen, who he had worked in the office previously. He also rose to prominence because he became the chair of the state Democratic Party, meaning that our local party, but the version that represents, you know, all the counties, right? So that was a major thing for him because he got to go to so many counties. He led the party during the Biden times, so it was a very like I'm staking my claim type of um type of uh position for him at that time. Um, I Tarif is a lawyer by trade, I believe. Yes, he's a lawyer by trade, but not sure in practice prior to actually running for office as well. And his campaign has, you know, they've been doing their thing. Old school Democratic Party got a lot of incredible endorsements. Oh, flashback. One thing I did not mention about Dr. Stanford, she is the endorsed candidate by the the leaving incumbent. So Dwight Evans actually did endorse Dr. Stanford. That was a whole T of its own. All right, now back to Senator Street. Yes, so Senator Street has a lot of, you know, really Philly grounded, Philly Democratic Party system um um endorsements, right? Most particularly in and I would say most importantly, labor, right? Philly is a labor city. Philly, labor puts their money where their mouth is, they put their bodies where they mouth are, they put the signs, they do all that, right? So he has that backing right now. Now, we haven't seen many um ads or commercials that have come up from Senator Street's side, too, which is also kind of like a a questioning thing because it's like, you know, where where's the ads? Like we know that you're gonna have that machine, that democratic machine, but are people really gonna be excited to show up or know about you outside of the committee people telling them telling you to vote for them, right? And sometimes, especially in congressional races, especially in this age of Trump, or people are getting more educated, that Democratic Party system may not be enough. Maybe when you're voting for, you know, something really random, like where you don't know like a judge and grant. I mean, I know that sounds terrible, but you don't really know. So you're like, of course, party people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you're talking about Congress, talking about issues that people actually like think about, know about, that's on the news. Yeah, no, they're they're gonna do their own digging and you know, they're gonna see their own folks, they're gonna find out, you know, who they think would actually represent them, and it may, you know, be outside of the scope of what the party can push and do at this time, right? So, and Senator Street is, you know, a Norfolk guy. He has worked really hard, he has some incredible staffers in his office. One of the one of the one of my you know idols, and you know, one of my mentors, Sharon Vaughan, has worked in his office. She's major endorsing him. So, you know, he has a lot of great people around him, but again, we are fighting ideological battles at this point, and unfortunately, you know, he has to carry the stink of the old Democratic Party in Philadelphia for the for bad or for good, right? And some spaces that's seen as a great thing, and some spaces that's not, right? So, again, what is going to be the ideology that's gonna come forward at the end of this race? Last but not least, oh I can say last but not least, we can talk about Sean. Um, next we have Chris Rab. Chris Rab was formerly a state rep, like we said in that 201. Let me make sure I said that right is so many of these seats. 200, excuse me. He was formerly the state rep in a 200th district. I don't remember when Rab, but he has been in office for at least over over. Nine years and has been in that seat for a while. Um, actually, actually beating the party system when he won his seat because there was a Democratic Party endorsed candidate in his original state rap race that he was actually able to um to beat. So that's you know, I don't know what that may mean. I don't know if the writing's on the wall. It's like, no, I don't know. But yes, Chris has come in with this energy. He is a former teacher or professor, excuse me, at Temple University. He was in the State House and he has known for being a what capital P progressive, okay? Maybe even a capital C progressive, if you know what I mean. You know, so he's out there. He he is one of those guys. He's like, he's like, let's legalize sex work, uh, everybody needs a union and and F Starbucks. Like he's he's giving that. So you we we we have seen how this level of progressives are coming into Philadelphia or are are arising in Philadelphia because you can't even say that these people aren't natives because a lot of progressives, I mean hard P progressives, are Philadelphians too, right? We're not just gonna say they're all expats or people just coming in and taking over. No, like there are Philadelphians who went to Philadelphia high schools who are carrying these progressive values that they feel like will make their city better. So he has definitely aligned himself with that, most importantly, with the working families party, who has proven to be a major machine when it comes to Philadelphia progressive politics and really breaking up that structure. Um, most notably, most notably seen with first council councilwoman Kendra Brooks, who um unseated a Republican, as well as Nick, who in the next term unseated all the um finally um oh shoot knocked my mic down, finally unseated all the Republicans. Um, and that was all through the Working Families Party, right? That has that was something that we've never seen before, and that is the machine that is currently behind Chris Rabb. They are a heavy door-knocking campaign, boots on the ground, right? And I think that to it, that in a sense likenings to um to traditional politics, like really like going door to door, having conversations, right? But it also is something that we have lost in a sense, right? Because we have lied relied so much on a democratic system that now, you know, the progressive things to do is to go out and knock those doors and to build those coalitions. So that is what's been back in Chris Rab. He has had some kind of like stickiness, as most candidates have, around issues around Gaza and Israel. And you know, we never I don't want to get into that because then that goes again into the yellow, into the orange yellow man. But again, he has uh fully, fully dived deep into the progressive side and is probably one of the most progressives in the race. So now that we kind of have a very brief overview of the candidates, I'll definitely like ping a lot of the sources that I've used and kind of pulled from, you know, when having this conversation. But I I think you can see now why they're representing such staunch sides of which way the Democratic Party can go. And again, I'm not gonna make any endorsements or tell you who to vote for, but it it will be very telling, and I'm very excited to see, you know, where we are because this race, you know, more than any other that I've seen, is really up to anybody. Um, when we were when this episode first came out, fundraising totals had just come out, and Chris Rab, surprisingly, was in the lead of fundraising and had the most cash on hand. And also, Regarde Families Party had um just put out an ad during the Phillies game for Chris Rab, right? So we're starting to see that momentum pick up for him in a different way than we're maybe seeing for Chris or for Allah and um I mean excuse me that we're seeing for Sharif and Dr. Stanford. So I think that you know, we still have about a week left, and a lot can happen in a week in a race that is so close. Um, so I'm very curious to see what happens and how this plays out. So I'm really excited for that. And lastly, now that we're done talking about that race, all right. So, what I really want to talk about, and we'll be mentioning um a little bit more in depth in our next show because we'll probably be joined by a really special guest who talk about our local budget. Um, but I want to talk just mention very briefly, because I'll be remiss, if I did not talk about the news of the recent recent 17 um school closure announcement that came from the Philadelphia School District. Now, we're gonna spend some good time talking about this with um my guest. I'm gonna have a guest, let's get into it, person coming to join me. It's gonna be a little surprise, so make sure you stay tuned to talk about the budget, but also talk about what really happened and how we got to the point of closing 17 schools or the potential of closing 17 schools, and really what is going on between this quote unquote war between city council and the Philadelphia school district, right? And I think that is a term that we really haven't used that often. We're talking about different factions of the city, and that really shows how contentious this moment is right now, and it sucks because I feel like there is so much contention within our politics, and it's supposed to be inviting, right? Like that is what democracy is the combination or the battling and and then the compromise of good ideas. But right now, we're in a space where you know we're not even able to have those conversations any longer, or we're not trusting each other enough where those conversations really feel like they mean anything. So, again, we're gonna get into a really deep dive into you know the school district and you know what how we got to that issue with the school board, and you know what the the response from council was because I feel like a lot of narratives have been out there, um, but we have to clear the air because we're talking about our babies, we're talking about black people, we're talking about black family, we're talking about black neighborhoods that are going to be aggressively affected by these closures and by these decisions. So, yes, we're gonna do a deep dive. So make sure you come back. So then we're gonna do a quick little commercial break, and then we're gonna get into our first, first um uh, what do you call it, interview for this season? Yay! Um, and get right back into it. I have an amazing guest for you. I think you're gonna love her. Now, this one is for all my ladies. Look around your car. Look at your cup holder. How long that cup been in there for? How long ago did you spill that coffee in there? Look at the back seat. When was the last time the kids had Cheerios? All you know is that there's Cheerios back there, isn't there? Well, you need to get that car together because your whip is still a part of the look, girls. And what you need to do is hit up the best detailer located in North Philly, Woodson's, Suds and Bubs. That's Woodsons, Studs and Bubs. You can follow them on Instagram at Woodson Way to schedule and get your whip clean today. This week we're joined by Mrs. Cashmere Brooks McCoy, a mother, entrepreneur, teacher, and mentor whose journey is as inspiring as it is authentic. I met Cash nearly six years ago and have had the honor of watching her boldly embody her full, unedited self. From serving in the military to building her path as a hairstylist to becoming an educator, all while documenting her journey and raising six children. She has shown what it means to evolve with grace, strength, and purpose. She's a true inspiration, and I know her story will leave you encouraged, empowered, and ready to embrace your own journey. Okay, okay, and welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have cash on to be my not only like my first guest back, but like somebody who was supposed to be on before. And I think I think the creator or the spirits wanted us to do this later, right? Later, like certainly later. So much has happened between the first time we tried to do this and now, but for the both of us. So I'm really happy that we're doing this now and that we waited. So welcome to the show, Cash.

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Thank you again for having me.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Let me double check that I'm recording because last time I was so bad. This meeting is being recorded. I see it. Okay, good. Okay, we're good. We're in the money. Okay, great. So, no, thank you so much for joining the show. Again, like when I first started on the bridge, people like you are the reason why I started this show because I feel like you have so many layers, so many paths to your story, and it all just culminates into you. And not only that, but I feel like you carry it, and I've watched you carry it so amazing. And you know, I just want to share the share your story with the people and let them know that you know they can do anything they put their minds to. So and Ken. So I talked a little bit in the intro about, you know, your your many lives and your many paths, but can you just tell um the audience how you went from going from being in a military and being a military mom to now being an educator? Like, can you talk a little bit about how you went through that path?

SPEAKER_02 31:07

First of all, let's get into how I'm a second grade teacher and have been for the last time I was on the show, we talked about we were supposed to be talking about how I pivoted from being a full-time hairstylist to what was I doing?

SPEAKER_01 31:21

I think you were like I don't even know it was it was leaving the military, but I think it was you becoming a full-time hairstylist.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

So I think that's a full-time hairstylist. Yeah. So I think that one of the one of the one things that I love about myself, okay, we can love ourselves. One of the things that I love about myself is my ability to adapt to change. My life changes quickly every day. And I think the thing that centers me is knowing that I have everything I need to do what's next. Um, I don't allow fear to hold me back. So, me being an educator now is it makes the most sense in this season because I have young children. I need my schedule to be centered around my young children, and um, I need time off, and I don't mind pouring into the next generation. I think one of the things that, well, when I thought about being a teacher, I'm like, can I even teach? But then you realize that teaching is not just about curriculum, it's really about helping develop some someone's full self. I'm a behavior specialist, I'm a mother, I'm a nurse, I'm all of these things in the classroom. Everything that I am, I'm there also in the classroom. So it's just knowing that I have everything I need inside of me to do whatever the task is at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

No, I'll excuse myself. Oh, like listen, it's it's that time of year right now. I might end up stiffling a little bit too. So I love how I think that that is such an affirmation. Like, I have everything I need inside of me to pivot because that was something I definitely wanted to even talk about is like, you know, how do you even know when it's time to move on, right? Because I think, you know, one thing, I mean, granted, like I'm not in behind the scenes, right? I'm only kind of witnessing from the outside, but it seems like whenever you made your mind up, like that move is done, right? And it's not like, oh, I'm gonna second guess it. It's like I don't do here no more, okay? Or I don't do here on Saturdays, and now I do this. And I think that some people kind of have a stutter step when they kind of do those type of changes, but with you, it seems like it's on to the next. So, like, how do you even know when you're ready to make that change?

SPEAKER_02 33:28

So I would, you know who my mom is, right? So my mom was one of those moms who would hold me accountable for everything. If you join something, I don't care if you don't like it, but you need to finish it and finish it well. Don't just finish it because I'm telling you to finish it with that same energy you started it with. So, one thing um that had the had been instilled in me very early is to do everything you do, do it well with your full self so that when you leave from it, it's not something to second guess. So, in every season that I was in, even in the military, I got all my awards, all my accolades, all my things. So, even though I left, I didn't leave with any regrets or people feeling like I left them behind. Because I'm not a people pleaser, but I do believe in setting other people up for success. That's a that's a leadership treat, right? But in everything that I leave from, even in the hair, I left from the hair salon. But listen, if you need me as an emergency, I got you, right? We established friendship even between you and I. If even though my life is busy, I always make myself available for people who equivalently pour, right? So even in every pivot, I know that if I leave, that I did it well, there's no residue of anything that could be like regretful for myself or anybody else. So I just believe in doing things and doing it well. So that if my nervous system, that's what we like to talk about now, our mental health and our nervous system, if it doesn't agree with this thing anymore, I can leave knowing that I did it well.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Right, and that you really like put your whole heart into it. It wasn't like a halfway word try, it was like I put my everything into this, literally everything, and it and it's kind of devastating for me in a moment.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

And although, like, I'm glad that you said thank you for saying that, that it looks like it's done so easily and gracefully. It's really not. I have full crash out about my next move. Like, oh my god, did I really just sign up to be a teacher? What am I getting myself into? But I'm crashing out on the train, there are no stops in between. So I have my mindset on a thing. I know that I'm doing it, I'm crashing out along the way, but I'm still getting it done.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

I think that's like the black lady motto. Like, I'm gonna go crazy, but I'm just gonna keep doing it. Like, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna just do it. I'm gonna be bad about it, but I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

I'm like, I feel like I say that to you all the time. I'm like, I thought you weren't gonna do it. No, I had to just complain about it. I'm gonna get it done. Don't worry. We're gonna hear you. No, I love that so much. No, so I do you feel like there's a a common string throughout all of the things that you've done from being in the military to being a full-time hairstylist to teaching people how to become hairstylists to then now being a teacher yourself, like you feel like there's a common thread, and if it is, what what do you think that would be?

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Well, so of course I love the Lord, and one of the things that we learn or I've learned throughout my life is that if it doesn't bless or pour into someone else, what are you doing it for? So, of course, in our entire lives, we want to be selfish, like this is for me, I'm getting this degree, I'm getting this money, and all of these things, but in in my faith and also in my idea of legacy, what good is a thing if you can't give it to someone else or leave it behind? So, everything that I do in teaching in the military, now the military, I can't tell you what that was for. I was young, but I can tell you now that it has um kind of jump-started the legacy for my kids. Like they go to college for free, all of these things because of my sacrifice. So if it doesn't give a reward to someone else, there's a reward in a lesson for me. So if I'm not being taught in a season, I want to teach others. Like every season changes. Like I'm I'm learning something to give to someone else, or I'm learning something to grow for myself.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

No, I love that. I love that idea, like that in intentionality, right? Even if you don't, even if it doesn't seem like it sometimes, like there is always that intention. And I feel like if it's rooted in something as I don't even know how to put it, if it rooted in something so pure as I just want to make sure I'm helping and contributing, like that is something that I feel like a lot of people just don't. I feel like people try to attack it to something bigger, but it's like, no, as long as I'm doing something to help people, I'm I'm good, you know. I'm I'm doing what I'm I'm doing what I'm called for.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

Right. Even if it's small, right? Even if it's small, like me in a class from one little child at a time, one little crash child at a time. Literally, these kids, like, I'm like, why am I even doing this? Right. I'm in a class of 16 kids, they drive me wild, but then I get text messages from their parents, like, I'm not sure what you're doing, and we haven't met yet. Literally, my parent teacher conference list was like full. They're like, Oh my god, you got parents coming in and out because they want to see who the queen is, you know, like they want to see they want to see who the queen is because who is this lady and what is she doing to our children? She's crashing out on them, but they don't hate her. But there's really this life lesson that you learn. Like I said, you you teach, you you are taught, or you teach, or you have this level of compassion that even though my life is a series of curated chaos and crash outs, that it's not anybody else's fault, and I still have to do my very best in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

That is a word right there. A series of curated crash outs and chaos.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

All of the things that I do, I bring on myself. Like, I come with these wise decisions, and I'm like, boom, let's do it. Right. Oh, you're gonna be a teacher. You don't have no teacher clothes, you came from a hairstylist, you have a closet full of SF leisure. Like, how does this look? Like, what? Right, crash out, boom, curated, crash out, crying to my husband. I go to Marshall's, I get an outfit, I'm fine, but nobody knows where social media is so weird because of course they call it like a a series of highlight reels, and nobody sees the crash out.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

But I do it, I do it often, and even if they do show the crash out, it's very curated, right? Because some of the girls they try to they try to say, like, oh, I'm behind the scenes. Yeah, girl, but you picked up the camera before you started crying. So I like reading through the Teresa tears, okay? No, I love that. But listen, sometimes I think some people love that behind the scenes, which is part of the reason why I wanted to start this podcast. People can hear that you know, from the outside, it looks very finesse, it looks very, you know, clean cut. I'm putting my content up, I'm doing these things, but on the back end, it is so chaotic, and I'm still trying to just pull along and struggle along. And I think that view of perfection that people have kind of stops people from trying new things, starting new things, or even really putting themselves out. Like, even with this podcast, you know, I'm starting again, restarting again on my maternity leave, you know, very just we doing it right. Like, I told myself, like, I wasn't gonna like make this whole big thing, try to get back in the studio. I just wanted to get back and try to have a conversation again because that was really the basis of why I even started this. So, no, I get it. Sometimes you just gotta get it perfect later. We get it perfect later.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

I'm telling you, and I put everything, even when I started nursing school, I was like, Yeah, I'm starting nursing school, I got a job as a patient care tech, I hated it, I quit. What happened? It wasn't for me, right? I'm not afraid to fail out loud because some people they're like, Oh, well, she flexing, she popping it right. But you also saw me when I quit. I don't have that life of perfection. I don't care if people see me fail because if I wake up again, I have the opportunity to do something new, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:05

And they keep on trying and they keep on doing it.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

And y'all won't see me. I might quit being a teacher.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

We don't know, you know, but for now, I give you I give you the 27, and then you're gonna be like, Dom, I think I'm going to school to be a therapist. And I think that that was honestly my calling.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Literally, and you know what? My assistant principal, she asked me literally the other day, um, do you see yourself as a teacher? I said, you know, oh, she said, I feel like we are undervalued, we are undervaluing you. I said, Well, I like to be used to my own potential. Thank you for saying that, but I like to be used to my own potential. But then she was like, Well, we have another position for you, so I might not be a teacher next year. Okay. And thank you, Lord, for giving that because he knows that I'm I'm a two-weaker. Like, I'll give you a two-week notice and then I'll go around my way. So, more things to follow on that. And God knows that I am not a serial quitter, but I'm a serial um try something new type of girl, you know. So that's why I called you the queen of the pivot.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

I called you the queen of the pivot at the beginning of this because that's what you really are. Like, I feel like you have worn so many heads. It is, it definitely is. And I think that that I think that probably is rooted in your mom too. Like when I look at Councilwoman Brooks, because like, you know, she started running for office and did something that nobody thought that they could do, and not that you know, throw the ladies underneath the bus for their ages, but she was older, right? She was weight, she was much older, like doing stuff that that progressives are doing in their 20s. You know, she started in her 50s, right? And I think literally that is like, you know, that's something that is rooted in in the woman that raised us, like, you know, me and wearing 15 different hats. Like, that's my Jamaican upbringing. You know, my mom, like, she's you know, has side business, has side hustles. So that's something exactly, and that's something I think that's just rooted in the woman that we come from. So hopefully I can pass that forward to my son. So, do you think that's something that you try to really instill into your girls?

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Oh, 100%. And a lot of people ask me, like, how do you do it? You got kids, take them with you. I don't leave my kids to sit at home and kick their feet up while I'm working. If I'm in a salon, you know where my kids are? In the salon. If I'm in a place where I can bring the kids, I will bring them. And even if I can't, I'm gonna ask because ultimately my mom didn't really say much growing up because she was busy. She was a single mom, but I saw her. And when you when you see you emulate it better. And I think with my kids, even yesterday, so you know, I have a partnership with the hair store, right? So I've been doing that. The kids come with me. Yesterday, I was in the aisle, I turned around, they're training on the register. They're eight and eleven. Why do you got? But I said, you know what? I'm thankful because I didn't get this. This battery didn't get put in my bag until I till I was like 18, you know. Like, I didn't think about working and being an entrepreneur until I got older because I didn't see I haven't seen it done. I just knew to go to college, did that. I knew to get a job, did that, right? But all of the other things, the way I wanted it to look, I've never seen it. So I was grateful to get the introduction to certain things early. So that now my kids, they're younger than I was, but they have a different type of um, how do you say like zeal towards the thing because it's like, oh, I saw my mom do it and I'm gonna do it better. And that's the whole point. Every generation just gets better and better.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

So I see that I love that you said like taking them to the salon and stuff. You feel like it's beneficial because I have to start taking my son to work in like two weeks, and a part of me is like a little nervous because I'm just like, oh my god, he's just gonna be sitting in the office with me all day. Like, I hope he's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

He's gonna be fine. Those kids go everywhere, and it and it might be a little expensive because I find myself door dashing more often than not, but they understand and respect the work ethic. And I used to call it hustle, but I hate that word now because hustle just seems so unrested, right? But they see the work ethic and they see like, wow, we did this. Like, I see we spent 12 hours on the shop in the shop. Yes, we should shop on Timu today. Like, there's there's a level of deserves that you get when you see the work.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

You see, you see, you see where the they see where the money is coming from.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Yeah, how much mom, how much you make today? They'll see me go to one job. How much was that? They get curious, and I'm like, y'all are my business, but they also see if I say $400, they also see me go to the school and pay tuition and it's not enough. So it's like, whoa, you made all that money, but you still don't have enough. So even being fully transparent in my motherhood, like, um, this cost this much, and my husband, he hates it. He like, that's stay in the child's place. He's kind of traditional with that, like how our parents raised us to like that's not your business. But I think that that caused a lot of um, how do you call it? Like, it just caused a lot of confusion in my brain because I'm thinking I have to rise to a certain occasion later in life when you can absolutely need it now.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Or like also not have that shock, right? Because I feel like I knew about bills, but like I didn't really know about bills.

SPEAKER_02 46:26

I seen my mom working this job, that job, this job, but I had no idea an electric bill was gonna be over $200.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Listen, and like it's so funny. Now that I'm a mom, I text my mom at least once a week and say, like, thank you for something or something like that. Like, as soon as especially in the beginning of my return leave, I was having like these, I was texting her these long paragraphs, like, I can't believe we used to do all this when we were doing this, because like I'm just like registering now all the stuff that she did, how much things cost, and all of that, and then you know, and it was just like that. I really didn't know because I really didn't see until you know, now now that I'm a mother, now that I have bills and all that, too. And I was just like, How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Oh my god, how right? That's a real thing, and to be exposed to it earlier, it it minimizes the crash out or the shock you get from being grown.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

No, for sure. I want the my my babies to be more prepared than I than I was, okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Yeah, yeah. I'm today's old, and a lot of things are just hitting me for the first time, and I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_01 47:31

No, but seriously, my goodness, like, why is it like this? So I want to pivot a little bit, right? So even though you're the queen of the pivot, um, I think one thing that has always been consistent, whether you're posted consistently or not, is your social media, right? So, like you being a content creator, you sharing your journey on social media. I want to talk about that for a little bit. So, why why do you feel like that is a part of your journey? Because I think, and I'll explain that because I think social media and content creation gets a little bit a hate, it gets a little bit love. Sometimes it gets put on the pedestal, sometimes it gets pushed down because by some certain people. So I'm always curious as the people who actually like you know make that a part of their day or make that a part of you know their brand, you know, what is your why and why do you actually continue to push that, push those messages out?

SPEAKER_02 48:20

That's a good question. So I guess for two reasons. One, you can't ever get a memory back. So I'm really big on just taking pictures and videos anyway. Everywhere we go, I'm like, hold on, Brie. My daughter, she just got her braces taken off. I took the video of her looking in the mirror. You will never, my kids go through my phone like, mom, you had a picture for when I was like six months. I do. Do you have a picture for when I was like two? I do. So I you can't get moments back. So I'm really big on just having content for myself, for my family, for my husband. Anyone want to reflect on something? X me if I was there nine times out of ten, I got some pictures for it. So the first part is memories, and the second part is just to show other people that life is not perfect, it's not. And another part of like me loving Jesus, like you overcome by your testimony. You every time you say a thing out loud, it's freeing. Even if it's a crash out, and I don't really talk about my crash outs much because I'm kind of like a self-starter, so I'll get, I know that I'll get over it, right? But if you don't say the thing out loud, you don't free yourself from it. So all the things that I go through, I just post it. Whatever. It's not even for other people, it's for myself because I know that if I can release a thing, I'm clear to go to the next thing. Most of the time, people accumulate baggage from not sharing. You have so much shame or you're embarrassed, or like things just start to feel heavy. Peck light, let that stuff go. I even give clothes away. It's not just about pushing out content, it's just about I just don't attach myself to things or moments if I want to move on. Life constantly progresses. We always want to succeed and do better, but you have to do it lightly, let the stuff go. So when I push out content, that's kind of like my thought process behind it. Let the moments go. If it blesses someone else, if it's a if someone's able to relate or get inspired from it, push it out. You just don't know what it'll do. So those are my two reasons. My it's so funny, I'm two reasons in my inspiration.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

It's funny because I think it's sometimes people feel the opposite where they're like, if they put it out of social media, like it it kind of gets attached to them. It's not like releasing, it's like, oh no, not everybody knows. So now this is completely attached. But for you, you're saying, like, this is is freeing for you. It's kind of like a journal to a certain extent, like a very open journal.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Exactly. A very open journal. And and I, of course, I'm private too. Like, it seems like I post a lot, but I'm very private. I don't post anything like kinky, like you know, I don't go. My social media is very much like PG slash 13 mature audience, but it's not to the point where I have to feel like I have to redact information or bleak myself out. I'm very um modest in the way I post, also. So it's it's a um how do you call it? It's uh a monitor journal. And a lot of the things I do, like I don't post like my current location. A lot of the stuff is like after the fact too, because safety is important, right? Protecting my family and my my own well-being. But I do um, I'm very mindful of how I post because, like I said, I don't I don't want to regret anything, but I also don't live a life that that has to be censored, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

No, for no, that makes that makes a lot of sense. That does for sure. So, like if somebody were to come to you and they said they wanted to start this journey, like what advice would you give them? Would you tell them that they should move forward it? Because I think sometimes people look at content creation too as something that's being a little bit saturated. So, what what advice would you give somebody if they did want to start this journey as well?

SPEAKER_02 51:56

So I kind of have like a weird answer to that because I don't think that everybody should be a content creator. I don't I do think that there's this weird um connotation around like content creators make a lot of money. If you're doing it for money, don't do it, right? Because most of the times, like when you throw your boomerang, it probably ain't gonna come back. Like it's not gonna come back. And I think that if you're doing it for money or just to like get a quick dollar, don't do it. But if you really have like on an authentic pitch, like I want to show the world this, I want to talk about that content creation is 100% for you because there was a time where I wasn't making money, and sometimes I still don't. Like, I don't have like a rhythm. I post four times a week, I pitch the brands, I don't do any of that. Like, I just authentically tell my story and live my life, and all of the things that come from that, it just comes. So I think that social media can be saturated if you're doing it for the same reasons that they're doing it, if you're trying to make money and do all this, it feels saturated, it feels like nobody's watching, but I literally don't do it for people, I do it for myself. So if you are gonna create content for yourself, do it. If you're gonna create a YouTube channel for yourself, do it because it's literally memories. I go back to my page and I can go back years and I remember that my husband asked me a question the other day. He's like, When can I have this certain haircut? I said, Hold on, walk through my phone. I was like, Boom. But it brings back my own memory, but I didn't do it for money, and then come to find out that post actually made money. I didn't think about it, but it's for my own memory. So if you have a reason, an internal reason as to why you want to put this out there, that'll sustain you because now I've been content content creating for like six or seven years now, and I didn't I'm recapping the time now, but like six or seven years, but I don't always remember it being lucrative, but it has always created a memory for me to reflect to.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

No, I love that. I love that idea of just you know not doing it for other people because I think that's when people start getting crazy, and that's when people start just like doing anything with the clicks or just saying anything for the likes, and it's just like you're not being authentic to your message, which actually brought people to whatever you know content that you were putting out, and now you're just kind of just doing wild stuff just to keep getting people to come back or just to keep getting clicks just to keep making money, which can be addictive sometimes, like that can be addictive for sometimes. Oh, it's ripping your why, I think, is something that has been so central to everything that I've been doing this day. Like, why why am I even doing this? Why am I even showing up here? Because if it ain't attached to my why and attached to my money, it's kind of like what what's going on? What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 54:43

It's busy, and if it's no purpose to do it, don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

I think that's kind of like too, like what your 30s are for, right? Like you get so like laser focused in, and like before when you're 20s, you were trying to like collect everything and see everything and do all the things, but now it's just like okay, I know what my attentions are, let me just focus in and make sure I got it, especially when you have you know a family, especially when you have children, which for they which which these days is kind of like having like an exotic pet or something like that, because like you know, it's so expensive.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Yes, an exotic pet is so wild, but so true. It's weird because you can't get it in order.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

You can't, right? It's crazy, and like that's how people look at it this these days. And I feel like you know, motherhood has become such a choice for women of our age when before it was just like a a definite that you know, like you just have to be a lot more intentional these days and thoughtful when you are like, okay, I'm gonna be a mom, because it's not the way it used to be anymore, right? It's not as our expectation. So, like you as a mother of not, you know, you know, of six, you know, how how do you even approach that in your motherhood these like now, like with everything changing around motherhood, the way people talk about it? Like, how does that make you even feel about you know motherhood these days?

SPEAKER_02 56:02

One thing that I told my kids, I just started telling my kids, I because I I crashed out. They said something to me. It was early in the morning, and I said, Can I tell you something? I'm a 35-year-old woman living this moment for the first time, and I'm never gonna see it again. So, not too much on me. I I I can plan moments, right? But even when I arrive to the moment, it's my first time there. So, with all my fundamental and foundational things, it's like I know I have to feed you, I know I have to buy you clothes, I know I have to make sure you're healthy and take you to the doctors, all of those things, right? But when I arrive to a moment for the first time and I know I have all these people with me, like literally, all these people, I kind of give myself grace. Like, okay, you're arriving and you're taking notes because you're never gonna see it again, and you're stewarding lives, also. So when I arrive to the next moment with all of those things in mind, I just give myself grace. I don't have like a blueprint, I don't have nothing. Like every day is a different crash out, it's a different joy, it's a different peace. But I don't always get all of those feelings at the same time. I just know I'm checking off my basic needs list, like basic life support, BSL. That's all I got because some days all I can do is feed you, take you to school, give you a hug. Very basic. If we get to five and below, great. If we get to um make GIMP, great, but every day is not the same. But I know that I have done your basic life support.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Listen, that I think that that is so important too, because like on the one spectrum, you have people who are hating on motherhood and and and taking that choice, you have the other spectrum where people are doing the absolute most, right? Like, you have girls like here who are doing the absolute most who make that their entire self, their entire being, you know, is is motherhood. And it's like that's just not my reality, and also, you know, I want that grace. So, no, that that makes so much sense. Basic that basic level is what I got for you.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

And I'm just a girl, like, this is my life too. Like, motherhood is just a percentage of all of the things that I'm called to do. And if I fully indulge in this thing, I'm gonna miss out on so much life for myself and get older and have an empty nest and try to figure it out. I don't ever want to have to figure life out on the back end because it's so short, it's so unpredictable, and I do not want to live a life of regret. So I literally tell myself and everybody around me, I'm a 35-year-old woman living this moment for the first time. I tell the students in my class, I tell people that I'm encountering that are putting pressure on me that's not mine to carry, not too much on me. Like, yes, I'm educated, I've gone to college, yes, I have life experience, but this moment might be too much for me. So, Grace, please.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

Just give me a minute. So we're so we're actually I I I again I always had to make my interviews like 30 to 45 minutes because I never want to give the girls a two-hour episode, even though we can, you know, talk a bunch. But what? Oh, sorry, that's a zoom. I was like, why is that hand up? Okay, so what as I have a I'm gonna so I just threw, I just distracted myself. It was like a put a whole hand up when I put my hand up like this on the zoom. That's weird. I never seen that anyway. So as a queen of the pivot, I have to ask, what season would you say you're in right now?

SPEAKER_02 59:30

I don't even know. I was like in a soft girl season, but it doesn't really feel so soft anymore. I do feel like I'm more I'm in a more grounded season because even though I do so much, I feel lighter than I ever have been. Like I was a hairstylist, I felt heavy heavier. I was a first-time mom before, I felt heavier. Now I just feel so light, like I'm just breathing through, and maybe because my kids are older and my job doesn't feel so heavy. I definitely feel light. It doesn't feel soft, but it's also not hard. So I would call it grounded. I'm I'm definitely grounded, I feel stable. Um, even though the economy is wild, people are losing jobs, and it's just hard for many people. It's not hard for me, and I'm grateful for that. So I just I would say that I'm in a grounded season.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

That's that's a good balance between a soft heart or soft life and a and a hard life. I don't I agree with you. I don't feel like I feel like I'm not in my a soft air right now because if this is soft, like Lord have mercy. Like it don't get no, it don't get softer than this, bro. This is hard still. Literally, it's not so because I got a lot to do. Right. I was like, I don't think I'm gonna be in my soft until I got he's in his teen years of wow, my builds are all okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:43

So hello, that's all. That's all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Oh my god. So the question I always ask everybody though, just to close out, is what does it mean for you to be completely unabridged, like your whole unedited self?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:58

Um, just going back to what I said earlier, just grace, giving myself grace and letting letting people know what I'm doing before I arrive. I'm a 35-year-old woman living this moment for the first time, and I'm never gonna see it again. Literally, that's how I can be unedited because I don't know what's gonna happen, but I can let you know my intentions ahead of time so that everybody is aware of what's next.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

So if people want to support cash and in her mania hats, how how can they support you? Follow along the journey, um, plug, plug, plug some of the things for the girls.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Yeah, so I guess no, ain't no telling what I'm gonna be doing. My Instagram bio might change, but I'm on Instagram K dot N Y H R E. You can follow me there, and everything else that changes in my life will definitely be documented.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

We love it, we love it so much. Well, no, thank you so much for cash for being on the show again. I made sure it's recorded this time. Yes, we are up. So, no, thank you so much, but I appreciate it. Bye. See y'all next month. Yes, until next time. Bye.